Chair James Cary
Steering Simon Virr, Nick Eynon,
David Ellams, Bill Wilson
DSU Exec Alan Proctor, Tom Newton
Collingwood Jack Welsby, C.
Nash-Wanklin, Hans
Lehrach, A. Parker, Carole
Quigg
Grad Soc. No one
Grey Dan Moxey, Ben Wiles, Ben
Hall
Hatfield Christopher Ham, Gareth
Wilson, Bastain Kniphorst,
Auger Pearce, Emily Pitts,
Brian Ahearne
St Aidan's Jonathan Tyerman, Ross
Makenzie, E. Moody,
Alistair Keir
St Chad's David Lewis
St Cuth's No-one
Hild/Bede Simon Godsave
St John's Kara Wentzell, Yusef Khan,
James Major
St Mary's No-one
Trevelyan Chris Neville-Smith,
Muriel Oatham, Sam
Spencer, Nicola Plumb
University Benjamin Blair, Ian Turner
UCS No-one
Ushaw No one
Van Andrew Cheung
Mildert
ISA No one
MSA No one
OSA No one
Collingwood No one
Grad. Soc. No one
Grey No one
Hatfield Brian Ahearne, Mike Gibbs,
R. Caudwell
St Aidan's No one
St Chad's No one
St Cuth's No one
St John's No one
St Mary's No one
Trevelyan No one
UCS No one
Ushaw No one
Van No one
Mildert
The report was taken on a general aye.
Amendment 1 Proposed: Auger Pearce (Hatfield), Seconded: Jo Cook (Hatfield)
Delete existing sections 'DSU Believes' and 'DSU Resolves' and insert the following:
That many Durham students would like to have gone to Oxbridge
1. That they are misguided in this and Durham is actually a much better place to be; but nevertheless,
2. That the Union should endeavour to give its members what they want, and should therefore enable them to go to Oxbridge when they feel like it.
That the bar formerly known as Kingsgate be renamed 'The Oxbridge Bar'.
AP: This is the best of a bad lot
S Godsave: I hate it, I never wanted to go there and 2 months down the line its going to sound really stupid.
C Neville-Smith: Wasn't this submitted before the short list on the agenda was drawn up and failed to make the short-list ?
AP: I draw your attention to DSU believes 1 and 2. It has longevity, I leave it up to you to decide whether it is silly or not.
Amendment defeated by 21 votes to 2.
[The following amendments were all of the form: 'Delete DSU Resolves (1) and insert DSU Resolves (1) "To name the bar on Level B of Dunelm House: X"' - Steering]
2. "The Dun Elm" Proposed: Jack Welsby (Collingwood) Seconded: Hans Lehrach (Collingwood)
JW: Vote for it because its good.
A. Proctor: No its not.
Amendment defeated by 18 votes to 5.
3. "The Polar Bar" Proposed: Alan Proctor Seconded: E Moody (Aidan's)
A Proctor: There will be easy marketing for this one with furry animals and beer glasses.
SG: There would be better marketing with "The Farmer's Arse" [Also on the short list] and beer glasses
Amendment Overwhelmingly defeated
4. "The Waterfront" Proposed: Alistar Keir (Aidan's) Seconded: Jon Tyerman (Aidan's)
AK: Its the best of a bad lot
?: It sounds like The Riverside Cafe too much
SV: It sounds like the name of a bar in a really crap golf club
Amendment defeated by 15 votes to 5 (2 abstentions)
5. "TBFKAK" [As in "The Bar Formerly Known As Kingsgate"] Proposed: Simon Godsave (Hild/Bede) Seconded: Andrew Cheung (Mildert)
SG: I think its quite snappy
TN: It reads TBF Kak !
Amendment overwhelmingly defeated
6. "The Rah's legs" Proposed: Simon Godsave (Hild/Bede) Seconded: Andrew Cheung (Mildert)
SG: OK, we're brainstorming here, its like that joke...
?: Its shit
Amendment overwhelmingly defeated.
7. "Hatfield Bar" Proposed R. Caudwell (Hatfield) Seconded: Emily Pitts (Hatfield)
RC: Because ours is shit
Amendment defeated by 9 votes to 6.
8. "The Meander Bar" Proposed: Alan Proctor Seconded: David Ellams (Hatfield)
A Proctor: This is sensible and there's plenty of marketing potential
?: There's as much marketing potential as with "Kingsgate"
?: There's nothing special about "The Meander Bar", after all we're trying to solve Kingsgates's image problem
SG: Isn't a meander where a river isn't going anywhere fast ?
CNS: Its going to look pathetic if we don't change the name after all the publicity we've had appealing for ideas.
Amendment overwhelmingly defeated.
9. "The Bridge House" Proposed: Ben Wiles (Grey) Seconded: Dan Moxey (Grey)
BW: There's a bridge nearby and I thought it would be original.
SV: Sadly it isn't as there's already a pub called the bridge in Durham.
Amendment defeated by 11 votes to 4.
10. "The Cap and Phone" Proposed: Brian Ahearne (Hatfield) Seconded: E. Moody (Aidan's)
BA: Its a bit of a piss-take but it might bring the rahs in.
?: "The what and what??" is what everyone will say.
Amendment defeated by 14 votes to 1.
11. "The Homeless Bird Bar" Proposed Ben Hall (Grey) Seconded: Dan Moxey (Grey)
BH: There's a birds nest by the bar which I presume will be disturbed by the renovations and it would be a crying shame if we didn't adopt this name.
A. Proctor: Lets cry
Amendment defeated by 9 votes to 6
12. "Kingsgate" Proposed: Mike Gibbs (Hatfield) Seconded: Gareth Wilson (Hatfield)
MG: Lets just keep it the way it is.
?: Doesn't that defeat the object of this meeting ?
C Nash-Wanklin: Not if we've carefully considered and discussed it and come to that conclusion
Charlotte Comyns: What's in a name? The bar has prospered from humble beginnings with the name Kingsgate.
Amendment carried by 16 votes to 8.
13. "Level B" Proposed: Brian Ahearne (Hatfield) Seconded: E Moody (Aidan's)
BA: This one sounds more funky than the others I think it will attract a young crowd.
Amendment defeated by 16 votes to 8.
14. "Level Bee" Proposed: Brian Ahearne (Hatfield) Seconded: E Moody (Aidan's)
BA: I really want this name !
Amendment defeated by 14 votes to 8.
15. "The Union" Proposed: Tom Newton Seconded: Andrew Cheung (Aidan's)
TN: People cringe at the name "DSU" but "The Union" sounds cool.
Gareth Wilson: Why should any student resent the Union being called a Student Union ?
TN: it sounds a bit political then.
?: Its a crap name for a bar anyway
Amendment defeated by 14 votes to 6
16. "Kingsgate II" Proposed A.Parker (Collingwood) Seconded: Carole Quigg (Collingwood)
AP: This retains the originality of the name but adds something new.
A. Proctor: Wake me up when its over.
The Amendment was defeated by 14 votes to 7
TN: Can we do a straw poll to find out whether anyone likes any of the names of the list?
9 did. 11 didn't.
Procedural motion that the question be deferred to the next council, Proposed: Brian Ahearne (Hatfield)
?: We've had enough time to think about this, lets just vote on it.
The motion was defeated by 17 votes to 15.
The amended motion to name the bar "Kingsgate" was carried by 15 votes to 9.
Meeting closed